De uomgørlige valg - når et barn skal begraves, del 2

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Hvad skal der ske med mit lille barns krop, når det er dødt? Kremering? Kistebegravelse?

I 2007 var jeg 30 år, havde lige født mit første barn – en smuk lille dreng Kaspian. Kaspian døde ganske kort tid efter fødslen. Tre dage efter jeg havde født ham, blev han sendt til obduktion. Imens tog min mand og jeg ud i verden, hvor der mærkeligt nok stadig kørte biler, for at købe et lille guldkors han kunne få på, for at bestille de helt rigtige blomster til kisten, for at tale med kirken hvorfra han skulle begraves, og for at finde et gravsted. Af en eller anden grund var det aldrig en mulighed, at han skulle kremeres – måske fordi det ikke har været en tradition i hverken min eller i min mands familie. Så vi skulle vælge gravstedet nu. Fire dage forinden var alt naiv graviditetslykke. Nu var vores verden sunket i grus. Vi kørte til de to store kirkegårde, der er i Århus: Nordre Kirkegård og Vestre Kirkegård. Det var en grå og bitterkold dag – så koldt og gråt som det kun kan være i starten af februar. Min krop skreg på den lille krop, som jeg skulle passe på. I stedet skulle jeg vælge et gravsted. Vores valg faldt på en skovkirkegård med en mindeplade. Der synes vi ikke, han lå så alene. Det var et godt valg for os – men måske havde vi valgt noget andet, hvis vi havde set kirkegården om sommeren? Hvis vi havde vidst, hvad vi ved nu? Jeg er ikke sikker, men måske.

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Hvad skal der ske med mit lille barns krop, når det er dødt? I det følgende vil jeg helt nøgternt gennemgå, hvilke valg man skal træffe, når man skal begrave eller bisætte et barn. Det er en umenneskelig situation at stå i. Man har ingen forudsætninger for at træffe disse valg. Man har ikke prøvet det før - og det har ens venner (forhåbentlig) heller ikke. Der er ikke nogen rigtig eller forkert beslutning, det kan man kun selv afgøre. Man kan argumentere for og imod de forskellige muligheder. Herunder er de sat op systematisk i et forsøg på at give et overblik. 

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Hvis man er i den forfærdelige situation, at ens barn dør, er der overodnet veje at gå:

1)      Man lægger barnet i en kiste og begraver barnet i kisten eller

2)      Man lægger barnet i en kiste og kremerer (brænder) kisten med barnet i


Kremering

Fordele

Ulemper

Ved kremering får man asken i en urne, og den urne kan tages med. Dvs. hvis man flytter by, så kan man godt grave urnen op og tage den med.

Jo mindre barnet er, jo mindre aske er der. Det kan være svært at få en urne, der passer til små børn

Man skal ikke tænke på, at barnet forgår nede i jorden.

Barnet skal brændes

Man skal ikke bestemme her og nu, hvad der skal ske med barnets aske.

 

Man skal ikke bestemme her og nu, hvad der skal ske med barnets aske.

 

 

 

Kistebegravelse

Fordele

Ulemper

Barnet skal ikke brændes

Barnet forgår nede i jorden

Man ved hele tiden, hvor barnet er, og sænker det selv kisten ned i jorden

Man kan ikke flytte en kiste, efter den er begravet.  

 


 

Valg af gravsted/mindeplade/spredning af aske

 

Når beslutningen om, hvorvidt barnet skal kremeres/kistebegraves, er taget, så kommer der et nyt lag af spørgsmål:

Ved kremering skal man beslutte, hvilken urne man vil have, og hvad der skal ske med asken? Skal den spredes over havet? Skal den sættes ned i de ukendtes grav, i en børnefælles grav, i et almindeligt urnegravsted, eller i en skovkirkegård/mindeplade. Skal urnen sænkes ned på et eksisterende familiegravsted? Og skal noget af asken gemmes til at putte i et smykke?

Ved begravelse er der også et hav af ting, der skal tages stilling til. Hvilken kiste skal der vælges, en almindelig eller en kurvekiste? Hvor skal kisten begraves? Skal den begraves på de ukendtes grav? I en børnefællesgrav? Eller på et almindeligt gravsted? Skal man vælge et enpersoners gravsted, eller skal man vælge et, hvor der er plads til resten af familien, når den dag kommer? Skal kisten begraves på en skovkirkegård eller med en mindeplade? Eller er der evt. et eksisterende familiegravsted, hvor det vil være naturligt at få barnet begravet.

Som i mange af livets andre forhold er der ingen rigtige og/eller forkerte løsninger. Hver enkelt må træffe den beslutning, der er den rette for dem.

Her følger et par perspektiver – fordele og ulemper – ved de forskellige valg:

  

Valg af urne

Der findes ikke mange børneurner at vælge imellem. Når det drejer sig om et meget lille barn, kan de almindelige børneurner derudover være alt for store. Mange er ikke opmærksomme på, at man som forældre selv kan finde/lave en urne eller f.eks. få en keramiker til at fremstille en. Man skal dog være opmærksom på følgende:

Hvis man ønsker at sprede asken, kan man vælge præcis den beholder, man selv synes er passende, bare låget kan limes på og åbnes igen.

Hvis urnen skal sættes ned, skal materialet være forgængeligt over tid. Det er forskelligt fra kirkegård til kirkegård, hvad de modtager som urne. Kontakt den enkelte kirkegård, hvis der er specielle ønsker.

Derudover skal man også sikre, at tragten på krematoriet passer ned i urnen.

 

Sprede aske

Det er i Danmark tilladt at sprede asken over åbent vand, konkret betyder det, at asken kan spredes over havet, over større fjorde eller bugter. Det betyder samtidig, at det ikke er tilladt at sprede asken over f.eks. en sø. Urnen må heller ikke sænkes ned i havet. Ønsker man at sprede barnets aske over hav, skal der skrives en erklæring til begravelsesmyndigheden.

Det er også muligt at søge om tilladelse til at få asken delt. Hvis man f.eks. ønsker at sprede den ene halvdel af asken over havet, og få sat den anden halvdel ned i en urnegrav. Eller hvis man ønsker den ene del spredt over havet i Danmark, og den anden halvdel spredt over havet i udlandet. Man skal søge tilladelse hos stiftsøvrigheden under Kirkeministeriet til dette.

Det er de efterladte, der skal sørge for at få asken spredt, og spredningen af asken skal foregå på en måde, der ikke vækker opsigt.

Fordele

Ulemper

Man bestemmer selv, hvornår det skal finde sted

Det kan være svært at skille sig af med asken

Man kan lave en meget smuk og personlig ceremoni, hvor man spreder asken.

Der er ikke nogle faste ritualer, man kan støtte sig til

Hvis asken spredes over havet, så kan man føle, man altid kan mindes ved havet/vand.

Hvis asken spredes over havet, så har man ikke et sted, der er ens eget, hvor man kan lægge en blomst el.

 




Ukendtes
grav

De ukendtes grav er ofte en stor græsplæne, nogle gange med et monument i midten. Ofte får man ikke at vide, hvor urnen er sat ned.

Fordele

Ulemper

Der er ikke et gravsted, der skal passes, så man får ikke dårlig samvittighed over ikke at få det gjort godt nok

Man ser ofte at folk lægger blomster der, hvor de husker urnen/kisten blev sat ned. Man har ikke et bestemt sted at gå hen? Og måske opstår det behov.

 

 Man kan ikke blive begravet ved siden af sit barn, når man selv dør. Men man kan blive begravet i det samme område.

 

Børnefællesgrav

Der er forskellige typer af børnefællesgrave. Nogle er ligesom de ukendtes grav, dvs. man ikke har hverken mindeplade eller gravsten. Andre steder er der mulighed for at få en sten.

Fordele

Ulemper

Barnet ligger sammen med andre børn

Hvis ikke der er en mindeplade/sten, så er ulempen at man ikke har sit eget sted at gå hen

Man skal ikke have dårlig samvittighed over ikke at få det passet ordentligt, da kirkegårdens personale sørger for det

 

 Man kan ligge ved siden af sit barn, når man selv dør

Man kan ikke ligge ved siden af sit barn, når man selv dør

Hvis der er mulighed for en sten, så er fordelen, at man har sit eget sted at gå hen, men ikke noget at passe

Det er ofte ikke muligt sætte noget/lægge noget,  selvom der er en gravsten.

 



 

Skovkirkegård/rosenhave/mindeplade

Steder, hvor man kan have en mindeplade, varierer i et utal af muligheder fra skovkirkegårde til rosenhaver til græsplæner med mindeplader nedlagt i. En mindeplade er en firkantet, flad gravsten, der ligger plant med græsset. Hvis man stillet et lys eller lægger noget på pladen, kan man risikere, det bliver fjernet, når der slås græs. Man må forhøre sig hos den lokale kirkegård om, hvilke muligheder der er, og hvilke retningslinjer de har.

Fordele

Ulemper

Gravstedet er en del af naturen og er ofte smukt og enkelt i sig selv

Du kan ofte kun sætte en enkelt blomst i en vase

Det kræver ikke pasning

Nogle steder bliver alt hvad du evt. har stillet på mindepladen fjernet, når der bliver slået græs

Det lille barn ligger ikke helt alene

Man skal være heldig, hvis man som forældre kan ligge ved side af sit barn, når man dør

 




 

Gravsted

Et gravsted er ofte indhegnet af en lille hæk. Her har man mulighed for at få anlagt sit gravsted – sin lille have – som man gerne vil.

Fordele

Ulemper

Man har sin egen have, som man kan anlægge/pynte og passe, som man vil

Et almindeligt gravsted, uanset om det er et urnegravsted eller et almindeligt gravsted – kræver pasning. Hvis man ikke selv har overskud til det eller bor i nærheden, kan man betale sig fra det

Man kan vælge et større gravsted, et familiegravsted, så man er sikret, at man kan ligge med sit barn, når man selv dør

Et almindeligt gravsted kan virke meget stort til et lille barn

Man har sit eget sted, hvor man kan gå hen og mindes

Det lille barn ligger helt alene

 




 

Familiegravsted

Hvis ens bedsteforældre, forældre, søskende eller andet nær familie er døde, og man allerede har et familiegravsted, så kan man vælge at få sit barn begravet der.

Fordele

Ulemper

Barnet kommer til at ligge sammen med noget af den nærmeste familie

Gravstedet ligger måske langt væk

Der er flere om at passe gravstedet

 

 

Læs evt. blogindlægget: De uomgørlige valg - når et barns skal begraves, del 1. Det handler om, hvordan man tager afsked med et dødt barn. 


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